OPINION: Education Reform From This Retired Teacher's Perspective
No easy or definitive answer for what the best solution is, but this veteran educator is confident that the Michigan Public Education Finance Act is not it.
May I offer a retired public school teacher’s perspective?
Up until now, I’ve been reluctant to chime in on any discussions related to HBs 6004 and 5923, and SBs 1358 and 620, primarily because I can’t offer a remedy to school funding disparities in Michigan. Former BHS Superintendent Gary Doyle said it best: Any jackass can kick down a barn door, but it takes a skilled craftsman to build something. Therefore, in the absence of having a better idea, people often acquiesce to proposals offered by leaders who purportedly care about achieving a fair, workable resolution.
It eventually began to sink in that the reason I can’t think of a solution that government might provide to address this issue is that no singular one exists. Just like other very complicated societal problems (war, poverty and addiction come to mind), debates on education reform invite casual kibitzers and zealots alike, offering easy solutions that almost always end up to be unhelpful at best and catastrophic at worst.
I speak from the collective experiences of 23 years in the classroom (Bloomfield Hills Schools). At the risk of offending, well, almost everyone, such a background allows me to hear and understand what people are really saying (see below for a non-education example). Listening very carefully to the discussions surrounding the Michigan Public Education Finance Act, I have no doubt that the root of these proposed changes is the institution of a voucher system, ultimately siphoning off precious support that our public schools need to not only survive, but thrive. Further, the message from supporters is clear: I don’t want my child with Those Kids.
We all know Those Kids. They hang out occasionally with our sons and daughters, but our own children are never Those Kids. No matter who they are, they never seem to be a good fit for our children. We demand nothing less than exemplary facilities, countless opportunities and hyper-dedicated, perfect (and completely exhausted) teachers and support staff for our children, while it’s perfectly okay for Those Kids to take what is left over.
Let’s put on our “real” glasses and take an honest look at how it is that many kids end up in a particular school. Children begin life as little hedonists, who can and will make life miserable for anyone who denies them the pleasures they demand. Too often, this behavior continues even when the child is old enough for school. It is not uncommon for many parents to essentially let their middle years children choose where they want to attend school. Often these decisions are predicated on the student’s and his/her friends’ impressions of how they feel their wants and needs are accommodated. These conclusions may or may not be based on what is truly in the student’s best interest.
Here’s the related example I promised; bear with me, please. The “birther” contingency stubbornly refuses to accept President Obama’s American citizenship, despite irrefutable proof. Is the root of their concerns solely his birthplace? Or is this really a red herring, invented to mask thinly veiled but nonetheless fervent racism? Would the people for whom race makes a difference ever publicly reveal their real problem, that we have an African-American president? The issue of Obama’s birthplace serves as a convenient stand-in to spark discussion about his overall legitimacy. The crucial takeaway from this example: Racism in the 21st century is more polite, but far more dangerous than it ever was.
Quick history lesson:
In 1963, in Letter from Birmingham Jail, Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. wrote the following: I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the (Ku Klux Klan), but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direst action.”… Shallow understanding from people of good will is more frustrating than absolute misunderstanding from people of ill will. Lukewarm acceptance is much more bewildering than outright rejection.
I would respectfully ask Governor Snyder to heed the words of Dr. King. Please keep trying to do the right thing for public schools in Michigan. I’m sorry I can’t offer a more definitive answer for what would be the one best solution, but I’m confident that the Michigan Public Education Finance Act is not it. We as a people are better than this. What we have now is an evolution, and most local districts are earnest in their desire toward real improvement, when and where necessary. There is no “getting the job done.”
Trust me – this job gets done every single day, thanks to Herculean efforts by caring, dedicated, professional educators. Winston Churchill put it best: "It has been said that democracy is the worst form of government except all the others that have been tried."
Amy German,
Bloomfield Township
art
3:27 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012
After having read this twice, I think I see your message here:
1. The parents seem to be the biggest problem in insuring their children are not so hedonistic.
2. You finally laid the the real essance of your colum when you alluded to the birthers situation.
You column became nothing more than a polticial rant aimed at Gov. Snyder.
Sad!
R Gibson
3:56 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012
Sorry Art, I think you missed Amy's point entirely.
Cathy
3:50 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012
Bravo once againAmy as you get to the crux of the issue.
Mike Reno
6:07 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012
Ahhh… when logic fails, we toss out the race card.
This chore of a read starts out telling us that only the experts are qualified to pass judgment on schools… the rest of us are “casual kibitzers and zealots” who are “unhelpful at best and catastrophic at worst.”
We let our spoiled children decide where to go to school. These 11 year old “middle years” youngsters apparently network on spoiledbrats.com, where up-to-date posts discuss schools, and they learn “his/her friends’ impressions of how they feel their wants and needs are accommodated. ” so they can make an informed enrollment demand to us wimpy parents.
Somewhere along the way we progress from being brat enablers and jackass zealots to liars and racists as well.
When we are kibitzing (I’ll admit I had to lookup that it was someone who offers “unwelcome or meddlesome advice”)… we are not honestly kibitzing about trying to improve schools. No… we are being modern day racists. It’s true… Amy said so… she has, after all, the “background (which) allows me to hear and understand what people are really saying.” That background evidently came from 23 years of listening to the racist parents in the Bloomfield district; no other training for such a tremendous skill was mentioned.
But she ends by respectfully asking Governor Snyder to resist the pressure from the KKK.
Whew. Thank goodness it was respectfully asked.
Neal Charness
7:02 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012
Mike you remind me a fair bit of Jenny, who ran for the board. At one moment she attempted to be reasonable and then the next time she was blasting people.
The blog was not incendiary, whether you agree or disagree, so your tone is fairly rude--you can have a reasonable discussion without what you put in your post. You've identified yourself as an ardent supporter of the Republican Party and the governor which is certainly your perogative but the rest isn't really something you should be proud of.
Would you have the same feelings if a Democratic governor and legislature were looking to make such substantial changes when everyone's attentions are directed elsewhere? I suspect not. This time someone else's ox is being gored so it's seems to be ok with you.
Mike Reno
9:03 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012
So you think tossing the race card is not incendiary?
It is one thing to make points about this legislation. For example, the point some have made (not Amy) about pooling resources for the greater good... is a reasonable argument, and we can debate whether the greater good is more important than providing the best education we possibly can for each individual child.
Or some of the other arguments, while weaker, merit discussion.
But this post is not dancing on that line of decency.... It is deep into foul territory.
Those who support this are racist? Neil, re-read that and tell me in detail how my comments missed her points.
art
7:08 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012
RGibson: And what was her point besides naming awful children as a problem and how they can "wear out " a teacher and then she tries to blame Gov. Snyder for the school mess and as Mr. Reno points out trys to lay a little racism on him. Nothing more than politics in this article.
R Gibson
7:40 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012
Art while I don't agree with everything Amy Talks about. However,I don't her saying awful children. I think she was saying that not every kid is a perfect little angel and parents need to see their children through a spectrum that not all of them are well behaved, not all of them are going to be rocket scientists, or pro athletes. Personally, I think teachers are way under appreatiated but I am biased. They are on the front lines everyday, trying to get these kids going. Do you have any concept of how hard that is? My daughter is at bhms, she has a kid in 2 of her classes and he is a total punk. Makes loud outbursts in class, kicks tables, kicks chairs, etc. they can't do anything the parents don't do anything, so my daughter suffers. Not badly, but it is disruptive. Parents don't show up for conferences, they let their kids play Xbox and play station for hours, etc. The deficiencies in our education system are also the result of poor parenting. Frankly, the only one getting political is you.
Harold Lloyd
10:16 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012
Education reform as presented is not about better education, it's about sending public money to private companies. Most of the legislation is produced by ALEC.
If you don't know ALEC, you should...
http://billmoyers.com/episode/encore-united-states-of-alec/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Legislative_Exchange_Council
Mike Reno
10:22 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012
Ahhh... You've been to Reverand Markivitch's sermon.
You forgot to say evil... It's EVIL private companies... PROFITEERS.
Maybe we should assign an unpopular nationality to them? Chinese? That's it! Snyder is trying to outsource our teaching jobs to China!
Harold Lloyd
10:55 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012
Mike Reno, Is that the best you can come up with, attitude?
I'll bet you still don't know ALEC, or you might actually begin to think.
I don't really care what you think, or don't, there are others who can think and don't like the idea of anyone skimming tax money and accomplishing far less than the state could have in the traditional way.
It's not evil, it's just a bad deal for citizens, and it's being promoted by people who know it's a bad deal and would stick it to us anyway. Just business.
And it's just business when we find it out and decline to let it happen.
But enjoy your paranoia, I surely am.
Joe Judge
11:31 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012
Advocates for this legislation (I am not one of them- at least not the legislation in its current form) are for the freer movement of students to different districts, which would lead to the breaking down of the traditional district barriers that are often common lines between people of different backgrounds. The proposed laws are severely flawed, poorly concocted and over-reaching, but with all due respect to the author of the letter, they are not "polite racism."
Mike is right, there are better arguments against this legislation. The fact that these new laws would allow the state to take property in a district like Bloomfield Hills, against the will of the taxpayers, and install a charter school that can selectively enroll only the smartest kids and then be rewarded for good academic performance, is one argument. Reward smart kids, isolate and punish not so smart kids. Any pace, unless you can't keep up.
Harold Lloyd
11:58 pm on Monday, December 3, 2012
It may be a rant, but she's dead right about the parents.
Most parents have no involvement in their childs education beyond bitching about it.
They expect high achievement, but do nothing to show that they value education.
Parents are about half responsible for the sad state of education today.
The other half goes to the citizens who forgot what an education is worth beyond mere job training. It's where we build a society, and informed and involved citizens.
You starve the schools of funding, and then whine about lack of performance.
Get real. Pay some taxes, then demand improvement. If you don't get it, fire the ones who were supposed to provide it, starting with the Gov and working down to your local school board.
Bloomfield1876
6:47 am on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Speak for yourself Lloyd, besides it has nothing to do with choice. If I am an uninvolved parent sucking up the resources without participating you should be glad to see me go elsewhere. Despite all your arguments you just don't want me to have a choice.....end the monopoly of the educational establishment, close your ears to their fearful wails that their lucrative salaries and benefits may be a thing of the past, and breathe in the fresh air of freedom of choice for the education of your children. I can't wait.
Harold Lloyd
9:11 am on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Dear Bloomfield1876, I'd be glad to see you go eslewhere. How about Mexico?
It's not you I care about, it's your kid. I want him to be an educated citizen, able to see reality and help keep the nation moving forward to whatever future we leave them.
You know, smarter than you...
R Gibson
8:42 am on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Mike and others make this sound so noble and easy. We just want to send our kids where we think we can get the best bang for our buck. Freedom from the tyranny of the MEA. Well folks, it isn’t that easy. Look don’t jump on me and start calling me names. I am not trying to scare anyone. I am simply sharing with you the facts of what I know about a situation in a district not too far from us that is going through some dramatic changes. I don’t like the idea of barriers or the idea that we aren’t a community that is open to others less fortunate then us. However, on the other side of this equation is a reality that many of us in this community and this administration can’t even begin to fathom; how this new reality would utterly alter our district. This is a fact. My wife’s elementary building is going through this exact situation. Within her buildings attendance area, is a very large apartment complex that has dramatically lowered their monthly rates to keep occupancy up. The result is a huge influx of families fleeing the disaster in Detroit and the DPS. Those families deserve credit for wanting to get their kids out of the DPS and into a better district. In a few short years, this situation has dramatically altered the demographics of her building; it is now a Title 1 school with free lunches, and breakfasts. The staff has been caught completely off guard when it comes to the needs of these kids.
Mike Reno
10:29 am on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
I am not trying to scare anyone... but let me now proceed to attempt to scare you.
I don't like the idea of barriers... but please allow me to erect them.
R Gibson
12:08 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
You know Mike, you can be a real jerk. I am trying to share with the whole community something I am seeing first hand, something that I think could impact my kids and our district, not Rochester where you live. Instead of trying to see that I am trying not to set off to many landmines, on what could be a very controversial subject, you waltz in and start tossing rocks into the field to set them off for me. Your just like my father in law. You know everything and everyone else is wrong.
Mike Reno
12:57 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
"R"... I am watching this hysteria unfold, and feel compelled to offer some balance on this rather liberal-slanted website. You plant the landmines.
You offer condescending commentary, then toss out Armageddon scenarios, and then try to feign innocence.
These reforms hold great potential. But your efforts to frighten people are not allowing the legislation to have a fair hearing.
There are many legitimate reasons to be concerned over this legislation. If we can have adult conversations about this, then together we can probably find flaws, and find some common ground.
But tossing out ALEC, and assigning sinister motives to anyone who thinks differently, and fear mongering about "THOSE KIDS" is designed to shut out any reasonable conversation and debate. Suggesting that nobody but your wife or daughter are qualified to discuss this matter leaves little room for reasonable discussion.
R Gibson
8:50 am on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
This situation has required them to fundamentally change how they work, the services they provide, how the students and the family are worked with. It has changed everything. Because resources are limited, many children who were receiving services no longer get them. The kids coming outta DPS are so far behind. This all sounds incredibly terrible, and I don’t mean it to, these kids and these families deserve as good as education as our kids do. But that is not the reality of the situation and if we just tear down the walls, we will get a huge influx of kids from families who understand that a good education can mean a world of difference and our staff and kids will be unprepared to deal with the challenges that they have. Our kids will suffer. I am not trying to say, they should stay on the their own side of 8 mile road. I am not saying they don’t deserve a great education, they do. I am simply trying to have a frank conversation about what could happen to our kids based on my first hand experience with my wife’s district. These are the challenges we are facing, and the reality of what will occur in our district if Lansing follows the Mike Reno education model.
Amy German
8:54 am on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Yes, I did write a lot in my essay! My apologies to the bored. There is simply so much to consider regarding these proposals and their authors.
The topic of race was injected, not into the argument, but as a corollary example of how some initiatives can be disguised. No one was called a racist, so if the shoe doesn’t fit, don’t wear it.
I considered using athletics instead. Kids on the public school teams aren’t more deserving than their opponents. But the outrageous, beyond shameless recruiting of young (sometimes very young!) teenage athletes on behalf of the private or parochial schools gives those institutions extraordinary advantages. It seems unfair because it is unfair. These child athletes are often cherry-picked because they have exhibited talent or strength superior to their peers. Victories translate into dollars. Now, imagine that scenario when test scores become the barometer.
Thanks for listening, again.
P.s. I’m not generally a “bumper sticker” person, but years ago my car sported one reading “No Vouchers”. My then-young child asked, “Mommy, what are vultures?”
Now THAT’s a gifted student.
R Gibson
9:01 am on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
I am sorry if this offends people, but this is the cold hard facts. What do we want for our kids and what do we want for our community. Is it fair that those kids are born into a situation not of their making, absolutely not. Is it fair that we are blessed with so many riches and they are not, that for you to decide. But is that the reality of the situation? Yes, as sad as that is. Every one of those kids in Detroit deserves a day like our kids at Way or Conant, Lone Pine or Fox Hills. Every one of those kids should be able to wake up and want to go to school, have a full tummy and a PB and J and apple in a lunch bag. But they don't. Instead, they have to worry about walking to school and getting pulled into an abandoned home and sodomized or raped. That’s there life experience. Is our community and our staff ready to face the challenges that these little kids, in many instance, have had life experiences in just a few short years that none of us could even begin to comprehend.
Harold Lloyd
10:15 am on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
You are absolutely right, so why aren't school board meetings packed with people demanding good results for their taxes. Why isn't the Gov deluged with mail demanding the same. And the legislature?
The charter/online school thing is just a scam to fleece uninformed citizens, who fall for it because it promises more for less.
You'd think by now no one would fall for that, but it seems that they will.
Mike Reno
10:32 am on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Ever tried to "demand" anything from your school board? Good luck with that.
So all of the growth in charters and cyberschools... which is 100% voluntary... is the result of stupid people who have been fleeced?
Harold Lloyd
3:05 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Dear Mike, I mean exactly that, starting with you. You'd rather sit there and be nothing but negative and try to convince people that nothing they do will make a difference.
Well, you're wrong.
Either you're too silly to listen to, or you're a shill for the people who want to skim our tax money. Or both. Either way, you add nothing to this conversation, and probably nothing to the society as a whole.
Neal Charness
9:21 am on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Despite the rants of folks like B1876 and "art," there are people on this thread, much more conservative than me who are looking at this with wide open eyes. It seems pretty straightforward that the decades of efforts within the community could suddenly be nullified by this effort which seems to be an effort to privatize our schools and penalize the teachers union for backing Democrats without regard for our communities and our kids' education.
Amy German
11:18 am on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
And – for the record – as a believer in the concept of agape love, I can look anyone in the eye and say I’ve truly loved each and every one of the thousands of students I have taught. Loving the lovable is easy; try it with teenagers! It’s not always easy, but, along with my colleagues, we manage to do it every day. So, Do. Not. Go. There.
Joe Judge
11:38 am on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Amy, what a great way to approach your profession. Not always easy I'm sure. Thanks for everything you do for our kids.
R Gibson
12:09 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
I know Amy personally and she is a great teacher and her retirement was a loss to BHMS.
Elizabeth
2:11 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Mr. Reno, don't you live in Rochester? Do you have a job? It seems to me that you spend a very healthy amount of time on these message boards fighting against school boards, teachers and administrators. What do you gain from it?
Mike Reno
2:23 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Hope for a better future for children.
Mike Reno
2:26 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
And you made up the "fighting against teachers" part. School boards, yes. Administrators, sometimes. Teachers, not so much.
Harold Lloyd
3:26 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
An influential man once pronounced people like Mr. Reno as,"Nattering nabobs of negativism."
As a wild guess, Reno is an attorney working for the interests of a corporation that would benefit from the work of the charter/online school push.
R Gibson
3:44 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Actually Mr. Reno is or was President of his own company. They distributed C/Ds for software companies. He also unsuccessfully ran for a School Board position in Rochester. He has posts all over the place. And yes he lives in Rochester.
Mike Reno
4:06 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
I was elected and served for 5 years on a school board. Not sure where you got the "unsuccessfully",
Elizabeth
10:36 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Mike - Just so you don't think the Elizabeth above is me, I changed my name to Elizabeth 1+1 = 2 as in the first Elizabeth + the second Elizabeth = 2 different Elizabeths and that we are talking about education. We have had a number of interesting discussions and while I have lost my temper a time or two here on the Patch, I didn't make that comment.
That being said, I would like to say that I was disappointed in your above reference to an "unpopular nationality - China." If you were trying to alienate me, you succeeded. Do you realize that you could have made the outsourcing comment without the "unpopular nationality" comment? I would suggest reading the book "Yellow" by Frank Wu, the former Dean of WSU Law School. Then you might understand my family's point of view.
Elizabeth
10:54 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Have to add...
Don't know much about history,
Don't know much biology...
Great song, by a great singer/songwriter.
Mike Reno
11:29 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
You missed my sarcasm. It never occurred to me that it could be misunderstod.
My partnerships in China are key part of my business. I've been to China twice this year alone.
My business -- and the jobs of my employees -- was saved because of the business relationships with my friends in Shenzhen.
The xenophobia of some in this nation is shockingly shortsighted and ignorant.
I thought the inherent stupidity and sarcastic tone of the comment was so strong that nobody would misinterpret it.
As I reflect on your point, however, the very thought that it was misintrepreted leaves me embarassed. I am sorry.
Elizabeth
6:43 am on Wednesday, December 5, 2012
Thank you Mike,
Actually, I did understand that it was sarcasm, I just didn't think it was necessary. We may have different views on this subject, but our discussions have been civil. Again, thank you for responding an apologizing. Accepted.
Elizabeth
R Gibson
4:31 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Sorry Mike, but I got it from your own website.
http://www.rcs-reno.com/background.htm.
Gopala Garnepudi (I) 707
John P. Oldani 1,345
Michael J. Reno 2,267
Anna M. Reseigh 3,090
Robert Sharp 1,756
Martin Rosalik 1,797
No where on the site does it say you were the incumbant and was defeated by Anna Reseigh.
Mike Reno
5:00 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
The top two were elected. That website, by the way, is old. More recent stuff is at http://k12reformer.blogspot.com (although I haven't updated that in a year).
Check out the AP study I pulled together... cited several times by the Washington Post.
R Gibson
4:33 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Unless that is actually the Rochester Schools Website, but it looks to be an election website for you.
Harold Lloyd
5:22 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
"Ever tried to "demand" anything from your school board? Good luck with that."
Maybe he was on a school board after all. Maybe this is why he isn't any more.
Voters make mistakes, but they often correct them....
Harold Lloyd
5:34 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
"He has alientated educators, parents, and colleagues through his divisive politicking, rude behavior and general disrespectful demeanor at school board meetings. He has certainly NOT been a hero to many people who care about Rochester Schools."
"The simple fact is that when WE needed his independent stance the most...HE QUIT!"
Mike Reno
5:46 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
That was from my friend Marty... the guy that got 1797 votes in the list above.
As I recall, that was a comment Marty made to a news story that quoted a lot of parents who were disappointed that I chose to retire.
I think you and Marty would be good pals.
Neal Charness
7:33 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Mike, it really is time for you to go back to Rochester and beyond.
Harold Lloyd
11:55 pm on Tuesday, December 4, 2012
Is he a lobbyist?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHiicN0Kg10